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Snagfilms: Ads, Ads And More Ads (and movies)

2010 July 20

Ted Leonsis was a guy after my own heart. In the early ’90s, he stunned a bunch of suits at a Boston Globe management retreat when he took the stage and barked, “Digitize or die,” and his obsession for original online programming helped move AOL from powerhouse to behemoth.

Paradoxically, AOL was also the worst thing about the internet for what seemed like ever until it finally gave up on its wildly obnoxious walled garden approach. At AOL, Leonsis was a virtual studio head and he eventually produced a couple of films himself.

Each was a documentary with a social conscience; “Nanking,” based on the book “The Rape of Nanking” about atrocities committed by the Japanese army during WWII, and “Kicking It” about the Homeless World Cup. (Yes, there’s a Homeless World Cup.) He even coined a phrase for his brand of filmmaking: filmanthropy. (I know, yuck.)

So it came as no surprise when Leonsis and a couple of his AOL buddies decided to launch a website dedicated to the online distribution of docs. What is surprising is how little positive influence Snagfilms has had on the general population, on people’s appreciation for documentary or on the regeneration of the independent film community.

According to Snag’s widely covered press release last week, they boast “the web’s largest library of high-quality nonfiction films” clocking in at over 1,500 titles. Yet, whenever I’ve asked a civilian whether they’re aware of Snagfilms, I’m invariably met with a blank stare. Even many independent film insiders I’ve asked don’t know much or anything about Snag. How can that be?

First of all, there’s the AOL factor. The company was founded by Leonsis and former AOL and AOL/Time Warner Chairman Steve Case. Leonsis may have been largely responsible for seeding the web with original programming and an early influencer in making internet users comfortable with consuming entertainment online, but AOL was the most prosaic, oppressive, user-unfriendly destination site ever.

And God help you if you ever wanted to escape their evil clutches. Canceling  your AOL subscription was more frustrating and complex than plugging BP’s oil “leak.”

Then there’s the fact that Leonsis and Snagfilms’ CEO Rick Allen are sports guys, not movie guys. They may dabble in film and coin awkward-sounding catchphrases, but Leonsis’ Lincoln Holdings owns all or part of not one, not two, but three professional sports franchises (plus a stadium) and Allen was president and CEO of the hallowed Sporting News. He was also head of National Geographic and an executive at Discovery, so he’s got some documentary cred.

Neither their sports history nor captain-of-industry careers make them bad people, of course. In fact, their philanthropic and other extracurricular pursuits indicate the opposite. But the problem, I think, is a collective AOL mentality. Aside from the Leonsis and Case connection, a captain of the ship is Stephanie Sharis former executive of … wait for it … AOL. Again, doesn’t make her a bad person. Plus, like Leonsis and Allen, she’s been a producer on two docs; a short and a feature.

AOL was all about aggregating content and content aggregators’ bread and butter is advertising. Not, of course, advertising or promoting or marketing the product itself, but selling advertising against the product. Thus, when you land on Snag, what’s at the very top of the page right next to the company logo and three times as large? Advertising! Cheesy banner ads flogging everything from car insurance to massage schools plus a few major brands thrown in for good measure. Kinda like going to the movies, but it’s the thing that people hate most about going to a movie theater.

Not a great start or an indication that Snag’s focus is on their 1,500 “high-quality” films.

Then there’s the incredibly distracting video ad placed prominently “above the fold” and flush right. Prime location and awesome for the advertiser; not so much for the user. And if you scroll down below the fold, there’s another nearly as distracting large animated banner button there to greet you. These ads, though, are child’s play compared to the outrageous browsing scheme the company is following for achieving optimal ad exposure.

Any time you click an image in order to go to that film’s detailed information page, you’re forced to either watch or ignore a 15-to-30-second ad that starts up automatically. On a site like Snag, a user typically can hit half a dozen information pages before settling on the film they want to view, and each time an ad immediately autoplays.

I’ve never seen a more anti-consumer, self-destructive ad policy in my life. It’s shameful, but not unexpected given the professional genealogy of the folks in charge. (Even Hulu’s browse function is more user-friendly. There, you can mouse over the title of a show and be presented with a synopsis rather than having to click for the information,thereby launching an ad.)

It’s true that they also stream movies, but because Snag’s is an ad-supported business model, 30-second pre-roll video ads lead into every presentation and additional video ads intrude on the flowabout every eight minutes. I can’t speak for all the films, but in two that I watched in their entirety recently, the ads more often than not popped up in mid-sentence.

Even in viewing “Super Size Me,” the site’s major claim to fame, the very first ad pops in mid-sentence. Imagine being a filmmaker who’s spent a year or three pouring everything you’ve got into making the very best documentary you could, only to have it chopped up on a website cluttered with advertising. Now imagine premiering your film on that site.

There’s also virtually no community building going on. No real discussion. No real conversation. Snag’s version of community is YouTube-inspired commenting and the reposting of tweets.In other words, the absolute least they can do and still pretend to be a place where their users “participate in a community.”

Their technology is pretty hinky, too. For instance, moving to and from full-screen mode can cause agita ranging from missing a few frames to the film entirely restarting itself. There’s no excuse for bad tech implementation two years in and especially not when you’ve been financed to the tune of millions of dollars. We provided a much better user experience at Gigantic Digital on little more than a wing and a prayer.

For now, I guess any site that helps wean people off the withering teet of theatrical distribution is a positive influence. Unfortunately, Snag could be doing so much more and so much better that it was depressing to see the extent of yesterday’s press coverage.

The New York Times driving lots of fresh traffic to Snag’s website is not helpful. It’s not positive. Those new users are being exposed to much the worst of what’s possible, not the best. (I’m not speaking of the quality of the films, here, so save your flames.)

When Leonsis roared “digitize or die” back in the ’90s, it was prescient and exhilarating. Looking back on that statement today, he may as well have shouted “Digitize then die”for all that Snagfilms has accomplished in two years. C’mon,Ted, don’t be a regressive, uninspired film guy like your fellow sports franchise owner Mark Cuban. Be progressive. Be bold.

Light an independent fire for the future, Ted!

  • Stewart Nusbaumer

    This in The New York Times: Michael Moore was “asked to pick a highlight or two from the festival, which runs this year from Tuesday to Aug. 1, Mr. Moore replied that ‘one of the highlights is actually a lowlight.’ ‘I’m showing very, very few American independent feature films this year,’ he continued, ‘because they simply — the great ones — don’t exist.’”

  • Stewart Nusbaumer

    This in The New York Times: Michael Moore was “asked to pick a highlight or two from the festival, which runs this year from Tuesday to Aug. 1, Mr. Moore replied that ‘one of the highlights is actually a lowlight.’ ‘I’m showing very, very few American independent feature films this year,’ he continued, ‘because they simply — the great ones — don’t exist.’”

  • http://libertynumber5.blogspot.com Jon Croft

    Which, in your opinion, are the better online streaming/distribution sites out there & based on what criteria? I know of quite a number but haven’t seen one model shine above the others. I’ve seen a few terrible ones but many times there are good ideas on that site as well. Hulu was def an example of a good change but not exactly refreshing. Great amount of content of course (not happy about quality)- but buggy issues or then there’s the resignation that i have to sit through advert breaks in the flow.

    I typically watch on netflx since their tech & content are both the best out there- also they obviously work with others to stay on the cutting edge of this business through partnerships to acquire better content and in tech- to help get content into more living rooms. But of course there are in my opinion plenty of ways to improve things for the consumer. Obviously as you mentioned i wouldnt trust anyone who made aol as far is as i could delete their spyware- which isnt gonna happen any time soon.

    My sincere belief is that cutting out middle-men is paramount- which really has to do with acquiring better tech & getting better more effective, strategic partnerships just as netflx has done… accept this needs to be done by producers/indy distributors. My hope is that Producers can with the help of a smart distributor, make ‘art-house’ sites that can be customized for the Production company so that they can offer any content they desire directly, or through whatever medium they desire… or that there will be an online distributor that can make a seamless social-networking experience that makes movies come to you- the user/viewer- through some sort of ‘customizable preference’ settings… like you would when you are shopping for a 15th century desk on ebay. How this happens technically is less important than making the concept workable for the customer but i can imagine this would work either through some sort of browser plugin or a downloadable player like itunes/divx/hulu desktop, etc. or some sort of software that links you to the proper content online… but this is the thing… it is aggregated via customizable preferences. Netflx tries to do something similar but i am not so keen on it. I have never seen it done well online… this customizable experience.

    I suppose theres some sort of holy grail here somewhere but I am just coming at this from a viewer’s perspective.

  • http://libertynumber5.blogspot.com Jon Croft

    Which, in your opinion, are the better online streaming/distribution sites out there & based on what criteria? I know of quite a number but haven’t seen one model shine above the others. I’ve seen a few terrible ones but many times there are good ideas on that site as well. Hulu was def an example of a good change but not exactly refreshing. Great amount of content of course (not happy about quality)- but buggy issues or then there’s the resignation that i have to sit through advert breaks in the flow.

    I typically watch on netflx since their tech & content are both the best out there- also they obviously work with others to stay on the cutting edge of this business through partnerships to acquire better content and in tech- to help get content into more living rooms. But of course there are in my opinion plenty of ways to improve things for the consumer. Obviously as you mentioned i wouldnt trust anyone who made aol as far is as i could delete their spyware- which isnt gonna happen any time soon.

    My sincere belief is that cutting out middle-men is paramount- which really has to do with acquiring better tech & getting better more effective, strategic partnerships just as netflx has done… accept this needs to be done by producers/indy distributors. My hope is that Producers can with the help of a smart distributor, make ‘art-house’ sites that can be customized for the Production company so that they can offer any content they desire directly, or through whatever medium they desire… or that there will be an online distributor that can make a seamless social-networking experience that makes movies come to you- the user/viewer- through some sort of ‘customizable preference’ settings… like you would when you are shopping for a 15th century desk on ebay. How this happens technically is less important than making the concept workable for the customer but i can imagine this would work either through some sort of browser plugin or a downloadable player like itunes/divx/hulu desktop, etc. or some sort of software that links you to the proper content online… but this is the thing… it is aggregated via customizable preferences. Netflx tries to do something similar but i am not so keen on it. I have never seen it done well online… this customizable experience.

    I suppose theres some sort of holy grail here somewhere but I am just coming at this from a viewer’s perspective.

  • http://libertynumber5.blogspot.com Jon Croft

    Just a side note (and sorry for the long winded diatribe)– some of the reason I keep mentioning ‘customizable…’ is that there is too much content to wade through. And theoretically if what we want to happen happens (more direct distributing)… there will be a nonsensical amount to filmmaker & distributor sites to navigate to and play from- damn the quality of their player or the watching experience. Instead we need the ‘right’ content to come to us through some sort of software medium of choice.

    As we know, the real problem in all of western civilization now ISNT freedom to choose the right product it is TOO MANY DAMNED CHOICES! lol- Of course, if we could eliminate all the stupid, ignorant, harmful products first we would all be a healthier society lol -but the problem is WHO is going to choose what is ‘good’ for you? The government? Poppycock! They are, by nature, ignorant idealists- & they can hardly ‘know’ who we are- nor do they even care. Nor should they.

    Instead- we have to decide for ourselves & most importantly, we want to. But computers can at least help us to better designate our likes & dislikes as it comes to films or music or any other content. I mentioned the 15th century desk from ebay because i am amazed at the way ebay aggregates information. Ntflx on the other hand, has a few ‘genre’ choices & then ‘restricts’ the other content from view. That was an ineffective way of doing it, especially if you are like me, with me there really IS NO BAD genre. Nevertheless, I have filled up my ntflx queue over & over. So, I love the choices but i dont know if maybe I’m missing something good.

    But IF i could choose… a WB produced noir thriller in english made in 1981 in florida with william hurt and kathleen turner than body heat would come up — & that would be darned cool. Maybe IMDb has to do it- but they would need a competitor to show them how to make a good player.

    The rabitt hole gets squirreley at about this point because people think im talking about a distributor or streaming site when really im talking about an independent /or a neutral aggregator of film-watching preferences that ‘might’ link you to the content /or not, etc. whatever. And then from there the file could be played on your computers player of choice like quicktime or mwplayer (so it might help to be downloadable) -which also ensures your playing experience is up to par though. hmmmmm i dont think people would want it to be downloadable though. Which leaves us with how to make the viewer’s watching experience up to par. Those standards would have to be upheld somehow. Well im getting off subject… and on an idiot’s quest.

  • http://libertynumber5.blogspot.com Jon Croft

    Just a side note (and sorry for the long winded diatribe)– some of the reason I keep mentioning ‘customizable…’ is that there is too much content to wade through. And theoretically if what we want to happen happens (more direct distributing)… there will be a nonsensical amount to filmmaker & distributor sites to navigate to and play from- damn the quality of their player or the watching experience. Instead we need the ‘right’ content to come to us through some sort of software medium of choice.

    As we know, the real problem in all of western civilization now ISNT freedom to choose the right product it is TOO MANY DAMNED CHOICES! lol- Of course, if we could eliminate all the stupid, ignorant, harmful products first we would all be a healthier society lol -but the problem is WHO is going to choose what is ‘good’ for you? The government? Poppycock! They are, by nature, ignorant idealists- & they can hardly ‘know’ who we are- nor do they even care. Nor should they.

    Instead- we have to decide for ourselves & most importantly, we want to. But computers can at least help us to better designate our likes & dislikes as it comes to films or music or any other content. I mentioned the 15th century desk from ebay because i am amazed at the way ebay aggregates information. Ntflx on the other hand, has a few ‘genre’ choices & then ‘restricts’ the other content from view. That was an ineffective way of doing it, especially if you are like me, with me there really IS NO BAD genre. Nevertheless, I have filled up my ntflx queue over & over. So, I love the choices but i dont know if maybe I’m missing something good.

    But IF i could choose… a WB produced noir thriller in english made in 1981 in florida with william hurt and kathleen turner than body heat would come up — & that would be darned cool. Maybe IMDb has to do it- but they would need a competitor to show them how to make a good player.

    The rabitt hole gets squirreley at about this point because people think im talking about a distributor or streaming site when really im talking about an independent /or a neutral aggregator of film-watching preferences that ‘might’ link you to the content /or not, etc. whatever. And then from there the file could be played on your computers player of choice like quicktime or mwplayer (so it might help to be downloadable) -which also ensures your playing experience is up to par though. hmmmmm i dont think people would want it to be downloadable though. Which leaves us with how to make the viewer’s watching experience up to par. Those standards would have to be upheld somehow. Well im getting off subject… and on an idiot’s quest.

  • Mark Lipsky

    Jon – This is precisely what I’m working on. giving the filmmaker and his/her people the keys to the future of their own creation. Plug-and-play global access to their audience and a dashboard with all of the tools they need and access to whatever expertise they may require and/or can afford. Yes, some of these tools will come at a price but the cost will be the absolute least possible. Filmmakers will no longer be loaded down with the responsibility for figuring all this stuff out. Their primary concern will once again be telling compelling stories with passion and crafting the best film they can.

  • Mark Lipsky

    Jon – This is precisely what I’m working on. giving the filmmaker and his/her people the keys to the future of their own creation. Plug-and-play global access to their audience and a dashboard with all of the tools they need and access to whatever expertise they may require and/or can afford. Yes, some of these tools will come at a price but the cost will be the absolute least possible. Filmmakers will no longer be loaded down with the responsibility for figuring all this stuff out. Their primary concern will once again be telling compelling stories with passion and crafting the best film they can.